Preparing for Mediation • Your Divorce Case
Preparing for Mediation: What You Need to Know
In this episode of How to Split a Toaster, Seth Nelson and Pete Wright dive into the importance of preparation when it comes to mediation. As part of the season-long series "Your Divorce Case," Seth and Pete aim to equip listeners with the knowledge and tools they need to navigate the mediation process effectively. Next week, they'll be joined by mediator Tami Sbar to discuss the mediation process in depth.
Seth and Pete emphasize the significance of setting realistic expectations for clients and the crucial role of emotional readiness in the mediation process. They discuss the confidential nature of mediation and how it differs from a trial setting. The hosts also highlight the importance of having a solid parenting plan and a clear understanding of financial matters before entering mediation.
Questions we answer in this episode:
What is mediation, and how does it fit into the court process?
How can you prepare emotionally and mentally for mediation?
What should you bring to mediation, and what can you expect during the process?
Key Takeaways:
Preparation is key to a successful mediation. Draft a parenting plan and gather financial documents beforehand.
Mediation is confidential, allowing parties to speak freely and explore options without fear of repercussions in court.
Compromising beyond your comfort level may be necessary, but it's often better than the alternative of going to court.
Plus, we tackle another listener question! In "Fed Up with Frivolous Motions," a listener asks how to deal with a spouse who refuses to mediate and constantly files frivolous motions. Seth suggests requesting a scheduling order from the judge to set deadlines and keep the case moving forward.
This episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice for anyone preparing for mediation in their divorce case. By listening, you'll gain a better understanding of what to expect, how to prepare, and how to approach the process with the right mindset. Tune in to ensure you're well-equipped for your upcoming mediation session!
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Pete Wright:
Welcome to How to Split a Toaster, a divorce podcast about saving your relationships from TruStory FM. Today, what do you do when your toaster gets burnt? You cool off in mediation.
Seth Nelson:
Welcome to the show, everybody. I'm Seth Nelson and, as always, I'm here with my good friend, Pete Wright. Today we're going to talk about preparation, preparation, preparation. You got to prepare for mediation, otherwise, you're going to waste a lot of time, money, have a lot of frustrations. You can only control you so you got to be prepared and you can't make the other side be prepared. So, that's going to be one of the many takeaways for today.
Pete Wright:
Okay. I would like to start with ... And we should set the table for this because, the next episode, we are actually speaking to a fantastic mediator, Tammy Sbar, about the mediation process. So, today we're gating this conversation to the stuff you do with your clients to prepare them to have a good mediation experience. So, to open up, how do you set realistic expectations for your clients, let them know what they're in for?
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. So, we start talking about mediation very early on when we're representing a client because, from day one, we're always talking about what are the goals, how are we going to get there. And people will ask, "Well, what is mediation? Do I have to have a lawyer to go to mediation?" No, you don't have to, not in Florida, not in any state to my knowledge. Well, what's going to happen at mediation and here's what happens because to understand what is going to happen allows you to then prepare for what will happen.
So, one, the goal of mediation is to get your case resolved or as much of your case resolved, including any substantive issues or any procedural issues. That's the goal. So, how do we achieve that goal when we're sitting there in a room with you and your lawyer and the other party should be in the other room with their lawyer and the mediator or neutral who is not a decision maker. You have to understand that, not a decision maker. Tammy will talk about that next week where she has no dog in this fight.
Pete Wright:
Right. She's not a judge, she is ... Okay, here's a sidebar, Counselor. How legal is a mediation procedure? There are lawyers there and a mediator there, is this a thing that is somehow part of the court process or is it just a completely independent exercise?
Seth Nelson:
It's part of the court process in that the court will order you to mediation before you can go to a trial.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
Sometimes you even have a temporary relief where you want to get into court and then you will have to go to a mediation before the court will make certain decisions. Other motions, you might not need to have to go to mediation first. But there's no record, there's no stenographer or court reporter that you see in the movies because it's all confidential.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
Everything in mediation is confidential and the reason that it's confidential, there's always exceptions to the rules which we're not going to bother with today, is because you want to put your best foot forward and try to resolve the case. So, if I say to you, Pete, we're arguing about a hundred grand and I say, "Pete, I'll pay you 75," and you're like, "Nope, I want 95." And then I go to court and I say, "Judge, Pete doesn't deserve any, it should be zero," you don't get to say, "But at mediation he was going to give me 75." Doesn't happen, okay? So, that's a ... Now, the only things coming out of mediation are going to be a mediated report which is just a fancy term for I'm going to tell the judge whether you resolved your case or not and who was there. That's it.
Pete Wright:
And if it was resolved?
Seth Nelson:
That will end up in the court file.
Pete Wright:
Got it, okay.
Seth Nelson:
Okay. So, that's the legality part of it and what happens in the court file. Other than that, you're going to be in one room, they'll be in another, mediator goes back and forth.
Pete Wright:
And they're never in the same room, the parties?
Seth Nelson:
Very, very rarely and I always advise against it because the power struggles, the emotion, one roll of the eyes, the whole thing goes south. Okay. So, then sometimes the mediator will bring the lawyers together to move it along like, "Hey, I'm in a long jam, it's quicker to ... Let's see if we can talk this through." Clients are still the decision makers so go talk to your clients and see if they'll agree and, if not, they won't. And it's not that we're being all secretive, we say we're going to go talk to the mediator to see where the roadblocks is and try to brainstorm this in a quicker fashion. Okay.
So, what gets discussed at mediation? This is going to be shocking to you, Pete. The parenting plan, equitable distribution, alimony, child support, attorney's fees and costs. Okay.
Pete Wright:
Got it.
Seth Nelson:
So, how do you prepare for a parenting plan? Mediation. You draft a parenting plan before you get to mediation.
Pete Wright:
Okay. So, you're coming in with what you're proposing as a solid parenting plan from your perspective, your client's perspective?
Seth Nelson:
Not only am I doing that, if we're doing it to the best of our ability, we're sending that parenting plan over to the other side before we ever get to mediation. Because then I walk in and I hand Tammy a parenting plan and I forward it to her in Word and I say, "We sent this four weeks ago and we haven't gotten a response. So, where are we?"
Pete Wright:
Best case scenario, you've swapped parenting plans, party to party?
Seth Nelson:
Best case scenario, I've sent that four weeks ago, within the week, they've sent me back a red line version, I've edited it, accepted changes, sent something and we're in the process. Okay? Best case scenario.
Pete Wright:
Got it.
Seth Nelson:
Let's say that there's just some issues in this case that are very difficult, we've talked about them on the show many times. Someone dealing with mental illness or suffering from some sort of addiction issues or is not just in the right place mentally to settle the parenting issue. And what I mean by that is they've been the stay-at-home mom, they've been raising the kids, the kids are six and four, everyone says she's a great mom, there's no debating that but she just can't wrap her head around not seeing her kids for two days. Legitimate, legitimate concern.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
And maybe she's not even bashing dad. Yeah, when he is with them, they're good, he's just not with them a lot because I do the majority of the parenting.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
So, you might not be emotionally ready to settle that case and so then the parent might say, "I want to do a step-up plan. For the next month, Dad could have every other weekend and one night a week, I just can't do two," and they lay it all out. And my client's like, "That's bullshit, I want 50/50 now. She's not even saying I'm a bad dad." Well, then we're going to have a discussion about, hey, if we don't get this deal today, you might not get your 50/50 for another six months. So, take the deal now because you're going to get your ultimate goal sooner than waiting because I'm not going to get into court for six months. And if she's withholding the children because she just can't emotionally detach those two days, well, we all know it's going to end up 50/50 but sometimes you just take what you can get and you just move the ball forward.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. You can see that there are two things going on, there's the emotional readiness for mediation and there's emotional readiness for the specifics of living without your kids for two days and those have to happen at their own pace.
Seth Nelson:
That's right, that's right. And that's why a lot of clients will say, "Well, I don't have a choice, my lawyer told me it's going to be 50/50." And I'm like, "Well, you do have a choice, you can go to court, I'm just telling you we're going to lose." Right?
Pete Wright:
Right, right.
Seth Nelson:
And I'm like, "The law's not on your side in this hypothetical scenario," on the dad's side of my hypothetical, the law would be on his side. So, you have to be emotionally ready to resolve your case.
Pete Wright:
So, let's talk just a little bit, let's drill down a little bit on that. What do you do? What does the firm do, whoever's involved in this process, to help with the emotional readiness part?
Seth Nelson:
Prepare, prepare, prepare.
Pete Wright:
It's really just numbing your nervous system to being able to handle these questions?
Seth Nelson:
Listen, this is what's going to happen and I don't have any information in this case that leads me to believe that there's going to be a different outcome other than what I'm telling you. Now, I've gone to mediations, I just told them we're not agreeing to 50/50 and, under Florida law, the new presumption is 50/50 as we well know by now. And I say, I understand there's a presumption and I'm understanding that the only way, I want you to understand, the only way that that presumption is going to be an enforceable court order is if the judge tells my client that's going to be enforceable court order after a trial. And I will tell them you've looked at this information, I've looked at this information, we might view it different, we might view it the same but that's where we are.
Pete Wright:
Practical question. You and I have talked before about trial and you put me through the test of how to communicate in trial. And, as a result, I'm now rude to everybody I talk to because I learned to shut up.
Seth Nelson:
That wasn't really the result.
Pete Wright:
That's what happened, yeah.
Seth Nelson:
You made it sound like you were never rude before that. I take issue with that.
Pete Wright:
Well played, Counselor. Here's my question. You said that mediation is confidential, do you do that same mock coaching for communication for how to present yourself at mediation that you do for trial? Is that something that you're ...
Seth Nelson:
Just the opposite.
Pete Wright:
Oh, see, this is interesting.
Seth Nelson:
Just the opposite. This is your day to talk freely because, anything we say to Tammy ...
Pete Wright:
Can't be used against you.
Seth Nelson:
That's right. Not only that, Tammy is not allowed to take it and say it in the other room until we give her permission to do so.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
So, you speak freely. What you don't speak freely about is the actual offer you're giving, you want to be specific on the offer. When you're brainstorming ideas or saying how you feel or this is your concerns, those are all things that you should be just talking about at mediation. The mediator and the lawyer may, which happens frequently, redirect you, might have you look at that from a different point of view to change perceptions, to talk about how things may or may not end up in court, to talk about ... Let me tell you, kids do not care when they're two, three, four, five years old where they spend Christmas, they want the gifts.
Pete Wright:
Right.
Seth Nelson:
Right? Teenagers do not care about Mother's Day and Father's Day.
Pete Wright:
Mothers and fathers do.
Seth Nelson:
Exactly, okay? So, we got to talk about these different perceptions in the age of your kids and what's really important. And you will have all these things that you're, "Oh, it's really important to them," and I'll tell them, "I assure you."
Pete Wright:
It seems so much like the mediation process, we've talked often about how clients never get their day in court, it's their lawyer's day in court, right?
Seth Nelson:
That's right.
Pete Wright:
But, really, your day in court is mediation. You get to bleed, right? You get to say here are my issues, here's what I'm struggling to process. Is that a fair assessment?
Seth Nelson:
That is a fair assessment but what you don't get is someone to tell you that the other side is wrong and you are right and that's what people want in their day in court. If I just tell my story that governmental official, whoo, we put a lot of trust in them, the judge is going to tell me I'm right and he's wrong. You don't get that at mediation-
Pete Wright:
Yeah, you don't get that.
Seth Nelson:
... because the mediator isn't the decider of fact, isn't the decider of law, is not going to tell you how this is going to end. You are the decision maker in what will happen. Tammy will talk about this, both parties, if they're going to settle, are going to feel uncomfortable in that settlement. So, in preparation, I'm telling my client, "Here's where we want to be, we might end up here, you're not going to like it. I want you to get prepared to do something you're not going to like, I need you to be prepared to sign a document that, basically, you can go over the trash can and hurl and then sign it and you're going to be okay."
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
That's the goal. No one walks out of mediation happy.
Pete Wright:
Feeling like they got everything they wanted.
Seth Nelson:
Because you won't because you're going to have to compromise. And you usually don't get everything you want in court anyway.
Pete Wright:
Last time, last week's episode, we were talking about everything else, the E in the peace process. And you-
Seth Nelson:
Technically, the second E. [inaudible 00:14:22]
Pete Wright:
The second E. Fair, that's good, good catch. You talked about, we were talking about starting at the end of the divorce process to determine the things that you want. Can you just refresh us, for those who missed that episode, just what is going on in that process? Because I think that gets to identifying your priorities and what you're willing to be flexible on in mediation.
Seth Nelson:
So, on everything else, we always start at the end. We're going to end up with a final judgment, the final judgment if you have kids is going to have a parenting plan and child support. It's going to also have a marital settle bar ... An equitable distribution schedule, alimony, it's going to lay out an attorney's fee. So, we're going to go straight through peace. So, part of what we do is talk about goals of, hey, do you want to have a 50/50, are you looking for ... Memorial Day is really important to you, is that one of your goals? What's your top five? Do you want to keep the house? If so, why? Are you willing to give out retirement to do it? So, we pull those goals out when we're preparing for mediation, how can we compromise on other items to get what we want on our major goals.
Pete Wright:
Keep those major goals upfront.
Seth Nelson:
Upfront. Because what happens a lot, Pete, and I prepare my clients for this, in meeting with your lawyer, realize when you've gotten your goals that, hey, I can let some of this other tier two, tier three, tier four stuff go, it's not as important as the main ones. And maybe you only get three out of the five of your goals on tier one because this is a compromise, you're not necessarily going to get them all. In doing that though, a lot of parties going through this, when you solve one problem for them, they get to the next problem and then the next problem and then the next problem and you just keep going and, at some point ... And I've got to tell them, the legal system is not going to solve all your problems, it actually might create more than it solves.
Pete Wright:
Sure, sure. What is it that ... You've done a lot of these mediations, what is it that borks a mediation for your clients?
Seth Nelson:
That just makes it go south and we're done?
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Every client could be different so think of every relationship is different and every trigger is different. The biggest things that make things go south is they're not prepared for mediation, they're not ready mentally to get their case resolved, they don't have enough information to settle. So, on the finances, you got to be looking at your schedule of equitable distribution early. Are there documents you don't have that you might need? Are there reasonable assumptions you can make because you can spend a lot of money turning over every rock but do you want to turn over every pebble? It's a client decision. So, not having enough information really is the hardest thing. Show up at mediation with an appraisal of the house, if not a full appraisal, maybe you show up just with a realtor saying this is what I'd list your house at, a comparative market analysis which is what they do when they go to price a house. They say what are the comps-
Pete Wright:
Look at the comps, yeah.
Seth Nelson:
... and go from there. So, have as much as that ready to go and if you are like, "I don't want to spend the money on a appraisal," are you willing to sell it and just let the market decide what that price is when you go to sell? So, those are the conversations you should be having early, early on and keep your cases moving forward but that's a big one to go south.
Pete Wright:
Do you have any bucket list cocktail party stories of somebody who turned over a table?
Seth Nelson:
Yeah, but it might've been me.
Pete Wright:
Okay. I think what we're getting at and what I'm hearing from you is that, so many of the things that you think you're going to do at mediation, you should already have internalized to the point that you're intimate with where you are before you get to mediation. That's the homework.
Seth Nelson:
That's the homework, that's the homework. And in a perfect world, the other side's prepared too and it can go fairly quickly. But mediations are usually set for half day or full days which is four hours or eight hours.
Pete Wright:
Yeah, it's a long day.
Seth Nelson:
I've had mediations start at 9:00 AM and go till 1:00 in the morning.
Pete Wright:
It's a long day.
Seth Nelson:
Yes. But that's because one of the parties might not have been emotionally ready to make this happen, right?
Pete Wright:
So, is the answer when things happen at the end of those long days that they're just exhausted to the point of figuring it out?
Seth Nelson:
No.
Pete Wright:
You don't think they ever get to that point?
Seth Nelson:
No, because what ... They do but what happens is, the longer it goes ... First off, we always order lunch and we always order dinner because people have to get fed and you got to ... You know?
Pete Wright:
And you want to keep them there, right?
Seth Nelson:
You want to keep them there as long as you're moving the case forward towards a resolution or a partial resolution. You don't stay there just to stay there, no one wants to do that.
Pete Wright:
Right, right.
Seth Nelson:
But what you do is keep moving the process forward. And maybe you just get a partial agreement, maybe you get an agreement that's going to happen for the next three months and we're going to come back to mediation, maybe we get an agreement that we're going to do a joint appraisal and we're going to have more information but this is how we're going to move the case forward. That's a very productive mediation if you can set some goals and agreements on how you're going to move the case forward.
Pete Wright:
Yeah, right.
Seth Nelson:
Right?
Pete Wright:
Right.
Seth Nelson:
So, with all that, that's success. And they're like, "Oh, I was really hoping to get a parenting plan, really hoping I would be able to sell the house by now." And I'm like, "Look, we've moved forward, right?" Now, what I do is I am happy to set another mediation but I always ask for an impasse of the mediation. And what that means is, judge, we've tried, we didn't get a resolution, I got an impasse, I'm allowed now to go to court. If I continue the mediation for three months, I'm now three behind in the court system.
Pete Wright:
Which could equate to nine months behind setting a date.
Seth Nelson:
That's right. So, I will get my impasse and then I'll say, "Look, I'll still work with you but, look, we're working well together but I can't guarantee you're going to be the lawyer there in three months."
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Shit happens. You get fired, something happens so let's move that along. The other thing that I think you're really picking up on, Pete, is people will be so nervous going into mediation but part of their nerves is they don't know what's going to ... The final deal is going to be that it might happen that day. And so, what I tell them is the worst thing that happens today is we walk out of here in the same position we walked in without a deal. That's the worst thing.
Pete Wright:
Right. It's not going to get worse for you from where we start.
Seth Nelson:
Right, right. It's we got our litigation plan, we're going to go through all that crap but, yes, that's the worst where we are right now because nothing gets signed at mediation without your agreement.
Pete Wright:
Right.
Seth Nelson:
Now, what happens is people will sign, and I prepare my clients for this, you're going to sign a document and, the next day, you're going to have buyer's remorse because the next day you're going to think I should have fought for that more. I should have fought for that. In a month, two months, everyone talks about, "Man, I gave away too much," because they compromised beyond their comfort level but it was a better decision than going to court. I should have settled with Seth for 75 grand. Or, if you signed that deal with me and you're like, the next day you're like, "I really could have gotten 95 in court, I should have not given up that extra 20 grand to Seth." Well, guess what? You would have had to pay for the privilege of going to court. You forget about all the bad stuff that was about to happen and the stress and the money and talking to lawyers and going to depositions and going out with your friends and having this take up the space in your head as opposed to going out with your friends and enjoying the evening.
Pete Wright:
And yet I have to ask, what does the scenario look like when someone's buyer's remorse is so strong that they feel like they have to undo what they did at mediation? Is it just a no take back situation or ... Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
No, there's takes backs. It's hard, you have to say that you're under duress. And so, what happens if my client does that and they say, "Seth, we got to file a motion to set aside this agreement. I was under duress, I couldn't do it." I said, "I appreciate that that's how you feel but you have to get another lawyer to do that because now we're in conflict because I am not going to let a client sign if I believe they're under duress." And I've pulled mediations, I've ended ... I said, "Do you know? To the mediator, we're at an impasse." "No, no, they'll still do" ... I said, "My client is not emotionally ready to do this, I cannot in good faith have them sign a document right now. And I'm saving everybody trouble because, if they sign it, you're going to get a motion to set aside and I'm going to have to tell the judge," I'll have to get attorney-client privilege waived to say, "Judge, I advised them not to sign it because they were too emotional and I thought they were under duress but they didn't take my advice and they signed it anyway. But from my professional opinion, this should be set aside." But I'm going to have another lawyer make those arguments, I'm going to end up being a fact witness on that one.
Pete Wright:
Does another lawyer take it straight to court? Is that the next step? You were under duress, now we're going to skip any other mediation, we're just going to court.
Seth Nelson:
Unless the judge orders you back to mediation.
Pete Wright:
Yeah, interesting, okay.
Seth Nelson:
Right? Or maybe you're taking depos, take another mediator, mediator follows a protective order, everything's confidential. You go to court to say, "Judge, we need the mediator." So, it's a great, great question.
Pete Wright:
How often does that happen?
Seth Nelson:
I'm never surprised when someone calls me and asks me to say they were under duress at mediation and my first question is who's the mediator.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
And if it's Tammy, I'm thinking we're losing that one because Tammy will say, "I'm not presenting this," because she's got a duty to watch out for that as well.
Pete Wright:
Yeah, interesting.
Seth Nelson:
Yeah.
Pete Wright:
Anything else in the bucket we should be talking about before we actually have our conversation with Tammy next week?
Seth Nelson:
On the preparation, if you're not good with numbers, if they scare you, if you freeze, make sure you review all the numbers on values, make sure you understand how the schedule works of equitable distribution. Understand where your money is being spent for your alimony analysis, understand with your lawyer how the child support guidelines work and how different incomes impact that, how the taxes work. So, it's a lot of math so you got to get comfortable with those numbers and ask your lawyer how long should I be there. When I talk about being prepared, be prepared to be there late and have childcare. Who's picking up the kids from school?
Pete Wright:
Who's going to make sure they're fed, yeah.
Seth Nelson:
That's right. Dress comfortably. You don't have to be in a professional attire, it's a mediation, no one cares. Dress comfortably.
Pete Wright:
Okay, that's good. I feel good about this, I've learned a lot. Look at you, I'm ready ... I think I'm ready for mediation next week.
Seth Nelson:
Well, the way you and Andy were talking before the show started, I thought I was going to have to put back on my mediator hat when I used to mediate all the time.
Pete Wright:
You can be so mean.
Seth Nelson:
I know.
Pete Wright:
Sometimes. [inaudible 00:26:25].
Seth Nelson:
And I can't take sides but you're right.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. We have a listener question today, Seth.
Seth Nelson:
Oh, nice.
Pete Wright:
Listener question comes ... If you have a question, please, we'd love to hear it. Howtosplitotoaster.com, there's a submit a question button right there, click it, ask your question just like Fed Up with Frivolous did.
Seth Nelson:
Nice.
Pete Wright:
Mm-hmm. If spouse is not willing to mediate or settle at all unless I give in on this unreasonable request, i.e. nothing equitable or 50/50, 100% his way but he also tries to delay the trial by endless motions of issues and discovery requests, how can I make my lawyer or judge stop his frivolous behavior? My lawyer keeps on saying he has a right to do so. Mental health and money are all at stake here. Thank you.
Seth Nelson:
Great question. So, on that one, your lawyer is saying they have a right so check your local jurisdiction. When I start getting a ton of motions and I'm having trouble getting the court to set a trial date and not because it's just six months out, nine months out and that's the first date. When I'm trying and the other side's objecting that we're not ready for trial, I will do a motion for scheduling order. And what that is is, judge, here's when discovery needs to be done, here's when it all has to happen, here's deadlines to do witness list, here's deadlines to do expert lists, witnesses that you might have but let's put this on a timeframe and let's do our absolute best to hold to this timeframe. Because then it's not just, well, I filed a motion or I filed a request to produce, they've objected then you got to set it for hearing. As long as you can keep moving it along, moving it along, moving it along, and we've talked about the process of the court system how you file a motion, you got to serve it.
[inaudible 00:28:25] and then you got to set for a hearing and it's 30 or 60 days and then a hurricane hits and it gets continued or someone gets sick or whatever that might be. So, with all that being said, I would talk to your lawyer about can we get a trial date and work backwards? Judge, we need a trial. They're going to say we're not ready for trial then we're going to say, well, let's get a scheduling order so we can get ready for trial.
Pete Wright:
Let's just say, in this case, what Fed Up is saying, do the frivolous motions, from their perspective, stop after a trial is scheduled?
Seth Nelson:
No.
Pete Wright:
Or is that potential ammunition in this process?
Seth Nelson:
It still is if they're truly frivolous in the legal term as opposed to you just feel like it's harassment. No, they might still happen but there'll be more deadlines and deadlines, back to preparation, bring settlement because a deadline is pressure. Nobody is worried on the first day of college when they get their syllabus and the paper is due nine weeks from now, no one's stressing.
Pete Wright:
No one's stressing about that paper. Yeah, right, of course.
Seth Nelson:
Go talk to them that weekend before and it's due on a Monday.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Brings pressure. Deadlines bring pressure, pressure brings movement, movement brings resettlement.
Pete Wright:
Outstanding. Well, Fed Up with Frivolous Motions, I hope that helps answer the question.
Seth Nelson:
That might be the best title of a listener question we've ever had.
Pete Wright:
You think? Keep them coming, keep them coming. Thank you for submitting that question, thank you all for submitting questions. We'd like to hear them, we like to answer them on the show, we appreciate more of them, howtosplitatoaster.com is where you do that. Thank you for today, Seth, I've learned a lot. Looking forward to next week.
Seth Nelson:
Oh, it's going to be great.
Pete Wright:
It's going to be great. We love Tammy. And thank you all for downloading and listening to this show, we appreciate your time and your attention. On behalf of Seth Nelson, America's favorite divorce attorney, I'm Pete Wright and we'll see you next week right here on How To Split A Toaster, a divorce podcast about saving your relationships.
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How to Split A Toaster is part of the TruStory FM podcast network, produced by Andy Nelson. Music by T. Bless & The Professionals and DB studios. Seth Nelson is an attorney with NLG Divorce & Family Law with offices in Tampa, Florida. While we may be discussing family law topics, How to Split a Toaster is not intended to nor is it providing legal advice. Every situation is different. If you have specific questions regarding your situation, please seek your own legal counsel with an attorney licensed to practice law in your jurisdiction. Pete Wright is not an attorney or employee of NLG Divorce & Family Law. Seth Nelson is licensed to practice law in Florida.
